425,000 Readers Later: The Neuron's Secrets to Success | EP 30
Description
In this gripping episode of UNinvested, Sahil dives into the fascinating story behind The Neuron, an AI-focused newsletter that has captivated over 425,000 readers. Join us as we chat with founders Noah Edelman and Pete Huang, both hailing from Northwestern, to uncover the secrets of their success in the fast-evolving world of artificial intelligence.
What we explore:
The inception and explosive growth of The Neuron amidst the AI boom.
How Noah's background in writing from a young age and Pete's strategic business insights fueled their venture
The strategic choices that made The Neuron stand out in a crowded market of AI newsletters
The importance of maintaining a unique brand voice and how it contributed to their rapid traction
Transitioning content strategy based on reader feedback to deepen engagement
Personal insights from Noah and Pete on overcoming challenges and staying innovative in content creation
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Where to find The Neuron:
Website: https://www.theneurondaily.com/
In this episode, we cover:
[00:00] Introduction to Noah Edelman and Pete Huang, and the origins of The Neuron
[00:36] Discussion on the timing of The Neuron's launch coinciding with major developments in AI
[01:38] How a unique blend of technical and business expertise helped The Neuron capture the zeitgeist
[02:33] Early decisions and strategies that led to immediate success
[04:53] The iterative process behind finding the right voice and content strategy for their audience
[07:06] Transitioning from broad AI coverage to deeper, focused stories based on audience feedback
[09:59] Insights on sourcing and curating content for an AI newsletter
[12:01] Reflections on the content creation process and its parallels with startup methodologies
[14:39] Advice for young creators on overcoming fear and societal pressure in content creation
[19:14] The dynamics of having a significant age gap between co-founders and how it strengthens their venture
[23:30] Challenges of maintaining consistency and quality in daily content production
[26:37] Dealing with doubts and the impact of social perceptions on content strategy
[28:11] Closing thoughts and thanks to the guests
[00:00:00] Sahil: Noah, a Northwestern student, and Pete, a Northwestern graduate, founded The Neuron, a newsletter focused on AI that has exploded to over 425, 000 readers. As always on Uninvested, we dive into the truth on how young entrepreneurs, tech innovators, and VCs make it. Why did The Neuron blow up? Pete, I know you've been writing on LinkedIn for a while, you have a mass following, and Noah, you mentioned in a previous podcast that You've been writing, you know, since you were 15.
So why did the neuron gain the success that it has compared to everything else you guys
have done?
[00:00:36] Pete: So we started in January, 2023. Obviously an insane year for ai, but just to lay out the timeline, chate launches end of November, 2022. It's then comes December, and so it's like half its is a holiday. Don't, people don't really know what's going on.
And then January is like peak. Oh my goodness. So we're like off to the races when it comes to AI stuff. And so I think it was in a moment where truly, I don't think anything else has captured the public attention as much as, as AI in the last like 10 years. I think I would say the last boom was like this crypto thing.
And then, but that was like very clearly only like a subset of the population that would like latch onto that. This was truly cross cutting. And so I think we just jumped on it between the two of us. I have a technical enough background to understand what's going on here. I've certainly have the business background to understand the impact on, on people's lives and how to, how to communicate that.
And then Noah has so much experience. Writing really engaging content, right? And so I think the two together provide a really useful skill set to, to kind of chase after such a big topic like this,
[00:01:38] Noah: A huge intention for us at the beginning of 2023 was to craft a brand and voice that would make people feel.
Sure. Ball. And prepared when it came to AI, necessarily chase clicks in the early days. So to answer your question, I think RAND was really important in the early days for why we received so much traction. We spent the first few months of building the company, really honing in on what is our actual approach to AI.
Roads to crafting content in a way that resonates with people who are looking for answers and people who are consuming media and educational products.
[00:02:17] Sahil: So bring me to the early days. Noah, I was reading. I think you mentioned it in a previous conversation that, you know, you met Pete through mutuals at Northwestern and, you know, within a week, I think of your first conversation, you guys kind of launched.
The neuron, what really led to that, you know, first few weeks of success, like immediate success almost.
[00:02:33] Pete: So we, we'd actually linked up initially mid 2022, I believe. And that was, that was our first initial call. I think there were a couple of weeks where we were actually like not fully sort of deciding on, on working together yet.
And so a lot of the initial. Very, very early like V01 sort of versions of the brand and, and all that kind of stuff. I was chopping up on Hanva and it was like, it looked terrible, but you know, the early things like the cat theme and all that kind of stuff were, were sort of getting into place. When we first started working together, it was very much like, we just need to like get into the groove of things, right?
Like one of the first things we did was just like, okay, let's just like try, you know collaborating on this for a week and just getting into the schedule of it and really understanding what the content angle is as we sort of understood what was standing out at the time and what other people were doing.
We really honed in on this angle, this this particular voice that, that, that we were going for. On Beehive alone, the email platform that we use. There were, by their count in 2023, 2, 500 AI newsletters that started on Beehive alone. How many of them had chatGBT summarized articles article summaries?
How many of them had robot brain computer themed things? How many of them had just like virtually indistinguishable Basically zero commentary, like real commentary from like a real person. All of them pretty much. And even in the set that has sort of like broken out, like in, in our pewter set today, you will still see that, right?
Like you will still see the majority of the people who are writing the newsletters, they like give you a link in a chat, GBT summary or something that basically came out of chat GBT. And I think very early on, we were like, okay, no, we need to like. Have a voice here and have a personality into what we think, like, what are we reacting to, what do we like, like, what do we think is a good move, a bad move?
What is our sense of humor with this? And so a lot of the early weeks as, as far as I recall, it was, is figuring that out and just like, as we put it all together, as we react to the news, we sort of come together of just like, what exactly is this voice that we're developing, anyone can get any information anywhere, right?
Like if you really like just search on Google or whatever it is. But like, how do you become someone's preferred place and someone that feels like a relatable source, right? Like these sorts of things start to come into play a little bit more.
[00:04:53] Sahil: It seems that newsletter after newsletter, you're iterating, you know, reminds me of a startup doing a lean startup methodology.
So in your mind, in your thought, when did you hit product market sit? For your newsletter, when you thought you solidified your brand, how you write the content you're pushing.
[00:05:08] Noah: I think the voice naturally like found its place in the first few months. And I had experienced writing in a similar voice for other newsletters.
So there wasn't that much iteration I actually need to do there. And I described it as being not actually that hard for you to write in that voice, because it's similar to how I talk. Like when I have thoughts that form in my head. I just put them down into beehive and like that's how it how it turns out.
It's harder for me to write in like a more like formal journalistic y way than it is for me to just write how I talk. So that's the first thing. The second thing was the actual structure and style of the newsletter. One big change we've made to the newsletter content at the end of last year is we've made Shifting from two shorter stories to one longer story, that's something we've been doing every day for a few
months now. The reason we did that is because we have a feedback mechanism from readers, where every day they respond to How they rated the newsletter and you've got hundreds of people every day to respond to that. And that's really useful because we get to hear what people are saying day after day. It's a very rapid feedback loop.
And one of the things we kept hearing over and over was we want more of what you're talking about and not necessarily everything you're talking about, but the most important thing of that day, we'd want to hear more about that, we want more context. We
want to hear more about what they're saying, and we want more commentary from you.
And so what I've started doing in the past few months, I started doing this earlier in 2024, is going deeper on one story every day. And that's something that naturally led itself to a podcast, which is doing something similar to the newsletter, but going even deeper than
I go when I'm writing every day. He actually spending 15 or 20 minutes talking about the same topics were sometimes mentioning in the newsletter, but going much deeper on like why it matters.
[00:07:06] Pete: Your comparison to like how early stage startups operate is sound. But I think because we're dealing with content, it actually is sort of different in how it manifests.
So the general cycle is this, which is look. Listen to your users and at the very minimum, like, if you have a very well grounded understanding of what your users want, then like, look at the thing that you're building and be like, is this good? Just ask the question, is this good? Right? And that's what software companies do.
That's what content people should do. The difference is, well, there's, there's like two things that happen, which is one, People in content, especially in these small teams like ours, get so used to writing the same thing over and over again that they forget to do the exercise. And so that's how you come away with these newsletters where, as the news cycle has changed, like this time last year the news cycle was completely different.
There were 10 new product announcements every day basically. And it was all about like these new tools. Now it does way less of that, right? Now we're really starting to like let the implications of all these things sink in a little bit more. People are asking deeper questions. People are asking how to questions, not just what is happening questions.
And so what happens is like a lot of this iteration that we're doing is simply, is this a good product for. Like the current moment, is this actually helping people understand what's going on? And meanwhile, you have a lot of people who are just like, look, I'm just not plugging Chuck news. And so they like have all these random headlines that are like, Oh, here's like AI medicine, AI and robotics, AI.
And like, and here's some chat GBT update. And it's like, Scatter shot. And like, yes, maybe there are some people who are interested in just seeing every single moment where the words artificial intelligence is mentioned. But most people, I don't think actually get a lot from that. They read that. They're kind of like, okay, like that's just, this just feels like a random collection and that it's like, you just searched the word AI and then you just like pulled whatever came in here.
The second thing is because the product that we're doing is content versus software. Software is often much, oftentimes like replacing or modifying a long standing workflow that doesn't change very often. So, let's say you have like a business process where you're like, Okay, every day I have to go to this website, I have to copy and paste these things, I have to go email this person, whatever it is.
Then you, your iteration is to make the product as good as you can in solving that problem. But that problem is pretty stable, right? Like that problem process exists in that form for a long time. With content, the problem changes, like as people's digestion of a topic changes, as the news cycle changes, all that kind of stuff, it changes.
So. Even though you're asking the same questions, the amount of times they end up changing fundamentally, what you're offering is more often in, in content and in media or at least that's the way we think it should be because it's sort of, you know, in a fast moving place like this, right? The people's reactions are all over the place.
You kind of have to. Be willing to adjust to where people are in the cycle.
[00:09:59] Sahil: You two are the content, news, content creators for a lot of people when it comes to their AI, you know, almost half a million people. So the people creating the content, where do you get your news and information to create the newsletter?
Where are you getting your updates from? Is it Twitter, X? That's one of my favorite ones.
[00:10:15] Noah: My approach is hearing out who are the people who really know their shit. Like who really knows what they're talking about when it comes to. The latest releases, latest demos, the latest research. A lot of those people are hanging out on X and Reddit.
And so that's where I find a lot of the insights. And when it comes to regular news and product announcements, a lot of that is coming from the actual companies themselves. So when we're writing about GPT 4. 0 coming out, we're actually going to go to OpenAI's blog and Twitter announcements and see what they're saying.
[00:10:51] Sahil: What are the creator's names you said you were mentioning? Like who knows their shit? A lot of them are anonymous on Reddit, it's on Reddit and X.
[00:10:56] Pete: I was going to say one, one other thing is for a lot of people, we're in the business of curating and then also translating. That is our source of value for, for a lot of our readers.
Curating is very easy, right? Like curating is, I mean, you technically could just like copy and paste five links and you're good. Called the curator, right? The translating part is harder, which is you really have to have a good gauge of what level your your audience is at and like what sort of like, so what do they care about?
So for example, if there's a research piece of research around context length, I know the first thing that we're gonna have to explain is what context length even is. Why does it matter? Like it's, it's that level of filtering. And so simply reporting out that, like, context length is now a million tokens, whatever, is like, fine, but like, really, really, what does that mean?
Right? And so that's a lot of the interesting part as we go through it is yeah, there are a lot of people who are like, really deep in this stuff. And that's like, really fun, but then we always have this like, filter in our minds of just like, okay, what's the angle? Like, what's the specific thing that actually like, matters to the audience here?
[00:12:01] Sahil: This next question, you know, your answer might have changed if I asked you the six months ago to now. Do you write The Neuron for the love of AI, a passion of AI, or do you write The Neuron for a passion of content creation?
[00:12:13] Noah: I grew up absolutely hating attending classes in school, but I realized in high school that I really loved learning.
And part of my mission and motivation for all of that is to teach other people around me about the things that I find really important in life. And that might be AI, that might be scripting, that might be machine learning, which I'm learning how to teach people about right now. I really enjoyed the two things that you just mentioned.
AI for me is the most important topic right now to be teaching people about. It's such an important point. You know, as development where these are the next few years where it's really going to be touching people, and they really need to grow needs in their lives and in their work lives. And so I enjoy creating content to help people navigate this, this changing landscape.
So it's definitely a combination of both of the two.
[00:13:05] Sahil: Pete, what about you?
[00:13:06] Pete: It's both right? Like I think the AI thing, I studied a little bit of it in, in undergrad. I did my master's in CS. And honestly, I put it away. I wasn't really fond of you know, studying CS and sort of went on to do businessy things afterwards and all that kind of stuff.
I still view it through that lens. So whenever there's like a platform shift, whenever there is like a huge technological shift underway, that is just interesting. The content creation piece. I. Get a kick out of the moment where people like, yeah, like that was clear and, and that helped, you know what I mean?
Like that, that is a very good feeling to, to chase after, you know? And so I think like we're very alike in that sense. And so I think like as we've pushed each other, To really obsess about content quality. We're like generally on the same page about that, right? Like it, when I asked Noah or Noah asks me, like, what is the angle?
I know what he means. And he knows what I mean. And that's the bar. And we know sort of that there is a level of content that is like not acceptable in our eyes that doesn't really help. So I think a lot of it is both of this is sort of like an interesting mix of the two that allows us to do this particular thing in this particular moment in time.
[00:14:12] Sahil: And my next question shifts gears a little bit, but. You know, a lot of young people our age really want to put themselves out there, but they're shy or they're afraid. What is your advice to them? Noah, you know, when you're in college right now, there's a lot of societal pressures. Maybe people are like, what are you doing?
You have to avoid the parties. You got school going on. Pete, probably were experiencing the same thing when you're putting yourself out there, building up your LinkedIn presence. What's your advice to those people that shy or afraid or maybe they're just starting to put stuff out there?
[00:14:39] Pete: Noah, how many years is there between us?
There's like nine or 10 years, 10 years. Yeah. Which is, which is interesting. Right. So I I'm 30. I started doing content like two, three years ago. So like 27, 28. And I think depending on your professional background, yeah, of course there's like a bunch of this like weird social stigma, especially on LinkedIn, by the way, right?
Like all of your former bosses, your former classmates, all these things like. Feels like a lot of people are watching you on the sense. It's a funny moment in content because like people really, really, really overestimate the amount of time and attention that other people are placing on you. It feels very exposing to kind of post something online and have people read it and like all that kind of stuff, but like, you know, in someone else's day, you were a passing moment and they know that you posted and the most they'll say is, Hey, cool.
I saw that post you made on LinkedIn, but like, it's not really like a, I'm hardcore judging you either way for it, frankly. It's just like, cool, you're like participating, you're like one of the people participating in like my online feeds now, and it's hard to get to that point to accept that, but really, what it comes down to is, like, the journey is always the same.
It's always the same, no matter how comfortable you are, like being outspoken on the internet. The first one to five times you put something out on the internet will be incredibly painful. You will obsess over the first article, the first post, you want to make sure everything's crafted correctly. And the second one, you'll do a little bit more.
The third one, you'll realize that like, you may, you may be starting to run out of ideas a little bit. And so how do you come up with something then still do you keep on going? By number four, number five, you're kind of like, oh my gosh, is this really it for me or whatever. And then by the 10th or 20th, 30th post, everything gets easier, right?
It's like, you know how to isolate ideas for content. You know how to write in a way that feels right for you. You've gotten over the the pressure of like, performing well and seeming sort of legit in front of the people that you know. What I find so funny about all this is that, again, this journey is exactly the same for every single person that posts.
There is no exception. There's truly no exception. It doesn't matter what you're posting about, who you are. Everyone goes through it. And so there's a little bit of like solace in that fact. Right. It's like some people especially in my circles, a lot of people are very like, they're more corporate types and they're like, Oh yeah, I see, I just see, like, it works out so well for you.
I want to do that for myself, but like, how do I get started? And I was like, Right. Suddenly you just press post and they're like, I don't understand. And I'm like, literally like, right. What is on your mind? No, it's going to suck. No, it's not going to get any traction. It's not going to get any likes, but you put something online and then you move on to the next one and that's it.
And it's like, it just takes a while for them to like really, really get that. But then everyone who has ever pushed a content consistently for over over a period of time will tell you the same thing,
[00:17:25] Noah: Especially when it comes to content.
Also when it comes to. I think you have to go in with a mind of you just can't hear what people are going to think and say about you.
And I think that's been an important thing for me to overcome over the past few years as I've gotten into and as I've gotten into startups, because when you take that first step, no one's going to understand what you're doing. You might not even understand what you're doing, and it's going to be hard to explain to people what you're doing.
And I think a lot of like founders probably in their early stages go through this, which is like that moment when someone says, Hey, like, what are you, what are you up to this summer? Or like, what are you doing when you graduate? And they're like, well, I'm like trying to build this thing.
And it,
it sounds like I'm unemployed or, oh, this is like a fun little kind of side project I've, I've
been working on.
And it seems like no one will really take you seriously until you have actually had A certain level of success. And I think that's a really daunting thing to approach, especially when there are a lot of forces within college education and within like the workplace for people in their twenties of like.
You are compelled to go and work a certain type of job with a certain salary, because that's what everyone else around you is doing and not what everyone is telling you to do. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with, with doing those things, but I think going into startups, you need to set aside everything about what other people might think or say about you.
Just kind of like go and do the thing. It'll take a lot of learning and I'm still learning a ton of things every day.
[00:18:59] Sahil: And taking that first step with a co founder is, makes it much, much easier when you have someone on your back. But you guys mentioned, Pete, you said you guys are 10 years apart. And I feel like that's, you know, not the most normal thing when it comes to co founders.
How do you think that plays to your strength?
[00:19:14] Pete: There's a thing that happens with experience, which is like, you gain a little bit more content expertise and domain expertise. But sometimes in some cases, you know, a little bit too much. What ends up happening is certainly like I can bring all my experiences in startups and serving small businesses and advising corporates and like all these different things.
And there's like a way communication that I've developed over the years and all those sorts of things. Sometimes though, it's like you overanalyze and we'll be talking through an idea and you know, just the act of like explaining it or kind of exploring it with Noah, you come to the conclusion that it's just like, well, you just got to go do the thing.
And we're like, here's, here's like a, maybe a simpler answer along the way that like, you know, maybe you don't need to overanalyze as much. You're right. Like, I, I don't know. Too many co founder relationships with this particular dynamic, but it is, it's useful, right? Like there's a certain amount of like energy and sort of going at it about things that like you, you, you lose a touch of that over time.
[00:20:11] Noah: I think the biggest thing for me that I've appreciated about working with Pete is I come into our discussions and this whole thing of building something with a lot of ideas and a lot of energy. And Pete has helped me frame those ideas and energy. In a way that actually makes sense when it comes to business building.
So, for instance, last week I came to Pete with a new kind of format idea on a type of AI explainer content that I want to explore. And I was really excited about it and what Pete helped me figure out was asking the right questions. I mean, where does this new idea actually fit into the ecosystem content that we're offering?
Where does this fit in from a business perspective, him having that, that business experience and strategic experience throughout his various roles over the last decade. It's helpful for me to kind of very quickly have that information transferred to me so that I can think about building this business in a way that's a little bit more structured and where I can ask the right questions when it comes to actually implementing the ideas and energy that I have.
[00:21:20] Sahil: People listen to this. They might think, wow, you guys. You guys both got it, right? You have a very successful newsletter, you just launched a very successful podcast, but talk to me about the times that no one really sees, right? Like the hard times, the thoughts when you're like, maybe this is stupid, we should stop this.
That's what I really want to understand. What were those moments?
[00:21:37] Noah: The times where I've had a really long day, and I might have other things to do, other things I want to do, and I haven't even started the newsletter, and night time is approaching, and I'm tired, and I don't want to do that thing, but I just have to force myself to do that thing, because the hard, fun, and interesting thing about content is It's a constant production of new things, especially when you're reporting on, on the news.
And so there are a lot of days where I just don't want to do it and
I'm tired and I'm frustrated and most days are not like this, but on those days where it's getting late and the time we need to publish is approaching. I sometimes feel like I don't want to do the thing, but I get forced myself to.
Stay consistent and really just crank it out. I think there is a certain amount of, of struggle behind producing content. So regrettably that most people might not know about, but ultimately it's very rewarding and enjoyable for me. And so that's why I do it.
[00:22:35] Pete: If you run a newsletter, especially a daily one.
You made a promise to the reader that you're going to ship every day, basically. And the actual operations of figuring out how to deliver that at the quality that you want is fricking hard. You know what I mean? Like put it in other words, like from a business model perspective, this level of effort is status quo, right?
Like there, there have been. Newsletter operators that have stopped because they're like, look, we're tired. Like we are just tired. Of course, there's always hard moments. I think, I think for content specifically, Noah, how many, how many newsletters have you written at this point? Yeah. Some of the 300, 400 range 300, 400 emails.
Each one we're targeting anywhere between 700, 800, 900 words. Sometimes you do the mat on, on, on how many words that you've written. Yeah. So for like a daily newsletter operator, it's kind of like, You're signing up for that, right? And, and that is, that is a thing that, that, that you're doing.
[00:23:30] Sahil: Was there any one moment, one event where you're like, Oh my God, this might kill the neuron.
[00:23:35] Pete: There have been moments where I've questioned whether or not we're doing things the right way. Yes. You know, like a lot of the growth for these newsletters has, have come from organic social media. Like a lot of the social media that we did early on is through my, my account, right? And when you look at some of the social media that's been put out to promote these of the newsletters.
Highly templatized sort of algorithm, algorithm optimized content that reads like a total NPC. And they do it every single day. And it's like, for some people you see the feedback on Twitter where they get super annoyed at them, you know, all this kind of stuff. And despite being over like over a year into content creation at that point, I still had those moments.
Where I was like, I let my fear of being seen as cringy among the SF and tech Twitter types that follow me or that I'm here, you know, in SF interacting with, I let my fear of their potential judgment get in the way of, of me writing that same content. Ultimately, that content produced results. I mean, there are some of these tactics that literally created 400, 000 newsletter subscribers for some people.
Out of thin air, basically, right? But in the moment, it is very painful to think about, okay, I'm gonna post this deeply cringy thing and get blocked by a lot of people and then go introduce myself at a party with a bunch of tech people and say that I'm that person. What are they gonna think about me?
Like, do they think I'm dumb? Do they think I'm not working on important things? Like, you know, there are all these sort of, like, things that carry around that. So there are those moments where I'm just kind of like, I think in retrospect, in those moments specifically, we as a brand ended up not doing things and, and did not take advantage of certain growth levers that worked remarkably well.
For these sort of soft feelings, right? And it has nothing to do with the business or anything like that. It was more of just, it was my personal Twitter account and I was afraid of what people were going to think of me sometimes, you know, and there were those moments where I'm like, yeah, was that actually the right move?
I've just gotten over it. What are those tactics in May or June of last year? And I posted a thread that was like, okay, tons of announcements. Here's like, here's a roundup of like big announcements from like, there's one from Meta, from Stanford, from blah, blah, blah, whatever. And there's like a curation of a thread and that like popped off.
There's another com a competitor of ours, coincidentally the very next day started posting that exact same format and I didn't want to do it again. Because I was like, ah, I just, I just did that. Like, I just used that content template. Like, I can't do it again. I mean, the guy proceeded to rip that thread format every single day for the last year.
So credit to him, he saw a format that worked. I originated it, but he took it for the next year. And as a result of that, he like reached half a million Twitter followers, right? And I did not. Because I, I didn't choose to, to kind of continue with that. So it's like those, those moments where I got the content, right.
I got the content idea, right. But it was just like the, the repetition of it and, and the, the willingness to be that guy with that template did not let me reap the gains, I guess, of, of like the full benefit of that.
[00:26:37] Sahil: My last question that I ask everyone that comes on since you started the neuron, has there been any personal routine that you've maintained?
[00:26:44] Noah: Daily meditation practice.
Something I've been doing since later years of high school, but something that I've tried to go deeper into over the past year and a half or so. There are going to be things that go wrong. There are still times where I feel stressed and anxious and meditation, mostly mindfulness meditation as a practice has helped me get my perspective in those moments and also overcome difficult feelings. I think so.
[00:27:11] Pete: Mine is Might as a lot more simple when you're doing this type of thing, you interact with, and when you're out of college, you just meet way less people organically, right? You don't have a workplace to go to. You don't have an office to go to with a bunch of teammates that are going to be interacting with you.
I remember, you know, the first startup I joined, we were 15 people when we started. And when I left, of course it was during COVID, but like there were north of a thousand people at the company. It's like there were a thousand people in your life now, right? Like that, that you go to talk to and spend time with.
And now, you know, the last year there were moments where I was like, man, like, I don't remember the last time I've like met someone new there were, there was at least one moment where I was like, I don't think I've left the house in the whole day, basically, you know, when you're working at home and just like online all the time.
So it's like, it's really as much as it's like a very classic sort of. Just take care of yourself type of thing. But it's like go on walks and go, go reach out to your friends and go like schedule some time and go meet new people and all that kind of stuff. So you're just building them in time and energy.
Go do that. I think it's been important too.
[00:28:11] Sahil: Noah and Pete, thank you for joining me. And with that, this has been Uninvested.
[00:28:15] Pete: Thanks for having us, Sahil.
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